Severn Wonders of the Railway World

Samd22 · Post by **Samd22** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:43 pm

1) Channel Tunnel
2) Rhine Valley line
3) LGV sud-est
4) Gotthard tunnel
5) Oresund link
6) Great Western Mainline
7) Zurich Hbf

JonPotter · Post by **JonPotter** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 4:58 pm

1. Stevensons Rocket
2. The Capitals United Expess
3. The GWR and all associated items, especially Castles, the Royal Albert Bridge, Southe Devon Banks and IKB
4. Stanier - Black 5 and Duchess
5. Bullied's Pacifics
6. North Yorkshire Moors Railway
7. Class 460's

skipperdipper · Post by **skipperdipper** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:03 pm

L&M Railway
Former site of English Elesctric at Newton-le-Willows
Chester Station
Hoylake Station
The Class 101
Birmingham Moor Street station
The Forth Bridge

Rob

jpantera · Post by **jpantera** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:41 pm

skipperdipper wrote:L&M Railway
Former site of English Elesctric at Newton-le-Willows
Chester Station
Hoylake Station
The Class 101
Birmingham Moor Street station
The Forth Bridge

Rob

Hoylake station

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:00 pm

I put Shrewsbury box on it because it's the largest mechanical signal box in Europe, and it's always impressed me towering over the tracks.

viperskil · Post by **viperskil** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:37 pm

erm GWR, APT, HST, Forth Bridge, Royal Albert Bridge, Folkestone Harbour Branch and Channel Tunnel. Note* can we extend beyond seven??

skipperdipper · Post by **skipperdipper** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:42 pm

jpantera wrote:
skipperdipper wrote:L&M Railway
Former site of English Elesctric at Newton-le-Willows
Chester Station
Hoylake Station
The Class 101
Birmingham Moor Street station
The Forth Bridge

Rob
Hoylake station

Its a 1930's listed building, and its nice for a local station.

Rob

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:15 pm

allypally wrote:I put Shrewsbury box on it because it's the largest mechanical signal box in Europe, and it's always impressed me towering over the tracks.

it impresses me too, and i live in shrewsbury, another box that will impress you is Crewe bank junction (the one off platform 3 north end) from road level its the same height as Severn Bridge box.

My Seven wonders of the Railway World are:

The S&C
Clapham Junction
Tehachapi Pass, CA.
Forth Railway Bridge
Trans Siberian Railway
The Ghan Express
Venice - Simplon Oriental Express.

Thrashin · Post by **Thrashin** » Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:20 pm

The Forth Bridge,
The Tay Bridge,
York Station Roof,
King's Cross (Apart from that Godawful tin bit they've bodged on the front),
Arnside Viaduct,
Edinburgh Waverley - how did they fit it in that gap?!
Bristol Temple Meads.

EDIT: Spelling...

96smitro · Post by **96smitro** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:46 pm

Mine are (with reasons):

1) London Underground (for revolutionising urban travel)
2) St. Pancras Station (for best Architiecture)
3) Channel Tunnel (engineering/construction)
4) The Moorish arch at Crown Street Liverpool [demolished] (the symbol of the start of the railways)
5) The Shinkansen (height of railway technology)
6) Trans Siberian Railway (greatest transcontinental)
7) Talyllyn Railway (pionered the concept of rail preservation)

Its certainly interesting to see everyones opinions of what they regard as their seven wonders, most of them though (including mine) are biased towards the UK though...

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:01 pm

one to add - the China - Tibet railway

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-p ... 345494.stm

not old, but a railway with pressurised carriages? That takes some doing. Hopefully they're not going to try running diesels up there though, can't see that working very well...

Garthion · Post by **Garthion** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:45 am

My seven, with reasons for some of them

1. Ffestiniog Railway as Built (well built with brilliant (still standing) Architechture)

2. Ffestiniog Railway Dduallt-Tanygrisau Deviation (Built entirely by volunteers when the original section was flooded)

3. Princess (FfR) (The first less than Standard gauge loco in the world)

4. Tallyllyn Railway (first Preserved Railway anywhere)

5. Pennydarren (First steam loco to work under its own power)

6. The Garratt locos (Powerful and able to go around tight bends)

7. LNER No 1470/4470 Great Northern (The first successful Pacific in the UK)

If only we could have more

Cheers,
Dale W

Rfairlie · Post by **Rfairlie** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:48 pm

Garthion wrote:My seven, with reasons for some of them

3. Princess (FfR) (The first less than Standard gauge loco in the world)

Thats proably not entirely true however its safe to say it was the first sucsessful 2ft gauge loco in the world.

Garthion wrote: 7. LNER No 1470/4470 Great Northern (The first successful Pacific in the UK)

Wasnt the Great Bear the first pacific and i would hardly call the Great Northern sucessful seeing as they were all rebuilt when Gresley found out that the other silly railway with green engines had made smaller locos that were better than it, and promptly stole all thier ideas.

You could also argue that a number of pacific tank engines for example the GCR 9N were built earlier and more sucsessful.

Tim

MuzTrem · Post by **MuzTrem** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:25 pm

Rfairlie wrote:Wasnt the Great Bear the first pacific and i would hardly call the Great Northern sucessful seeing as they were all rebuilt when Gresley found out that the other silly railway with green engines had made smaller locos that were better than it, and promptly stole all thier ideas.

You chose the wrong person to insult A3s in front of buddy...

Yes the Great Bear was Britian's first Pacific-although they had appeared in the USA earlier-but she was distinctly unsuccesful and later converted to a Castle 4-6-0. And the A1s were basically succesful-they only real advantage of the Castles was in fuel economy. Yes some modifications did prove necessary subsequently, but if the design hadn't been sound at the core the A3s would not have been as succesful as they were. I should remind you that A3s still hold the records for world's fastest non-streamlined locomotive and world's longest non-stop runs by steam-a design has to be successful to achieve that! Besides, lots of designs require modifications-Collet's Manors, for example, were poor steamers until BR improved the draughting.
In fact, if Gresley hadn't developed the A4, I'd probably have Flying Scotsman as one of my seven wonders...

andrewtoplis · Post by **andrewtoplis** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:20 pm

I would have:

The Liverpool and Manchester Railway and Rocket
The Erie Railroad's triple expansion compounds
The Listowel and Ballybunion Railway
St Pancras Station
The Channel Tunnel
The Beyer-Garrett concept
The Darjeeling Himallayan Railway

When you guys argue about A3s etc, dont assume that history has always followed the course of progress. The Great Bear was a success, but was too heavy for most of the GWR, so wasnt that much use. Had they sold it on to the GN or NER, things might have gone a bit differently...