Problem on WCML?

eyore · Post by **eyore** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:44 pm

Just driven old A6 over Shap, Penrith to Kendal and saw 6 trains (4 Up + 2 Down) standing on the mainline.

Something up, don't know what.

Phil

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:50 pm

National Rail wrote:Train services between Preston and Carlisle are being disrupted due to a broken down train. Short notice alterations, cancellations and delays can be expected. There is currently no estimate for normal services to resume

Whitemoor · Post by **Whitemoor** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 6:28 pm

probaly a pendo already knackered now its cleared 125mph all the way, maybe Virgin ought to take a leaf out of GNER`s book?

eyore · Post by **eyore** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:10 pm

Excuse my ignorance but why are both up & down trains stopped?

Phil

cardiffcroupier · Post by **cardiffcroupier** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:15 pm

Because one got jealous of the other of course.......

Post by **martinhodgson** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:20 pm

eyore wrote:Excuse my ignorance but why are both up & down trains stopped?

Phil

Possibly they have been routing trains wrong line to pass the blockage - obviously this can only be done one at a time, so trains in both directions have to stop.

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:20 pm

Some bits of the WCML are bi-directionally signalled, so getting past a failed train is possible, but they'll have to queue for access to the single line.

Or perhaps not.

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:26 pm

It is normal practice to close both lines to allow the train to be examined on both sides to see if it can be fixed and to ensure there is no obstruction to the opposite line.

barrymcguire9999 · Post by **barrymcguire9999** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:29 am

It was actually a failed Class 325.............1M61 I think.

45002 · Post by **45002** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:03 am

cardiffcroupier wrote:Because one got jealous of the other of course.......

I like that

MARTIN

Thrashin · Post by **Thrashin** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:29 pm

barrymcguire9999 wrote:It was actually a failed Class 325.............1M61 I think.

According to www.sulzerpower.com the 325s were picked up by 47298, leaving Carlisle at 0210 on 1Z01 to Shieldmuir. They then returned with the 47 to Warrington on 1M61. Diesel 1, Electric 0.

crosscountry · Post by **crosscountry** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:32 pm

Whitemoor wrote:probaly a pendo already knackered now its cleared 125mph all the way, maybe Virgin ought to take a leaf out of GNER`s book?

Why the need to make a jibe at Virgin.
Having been travelling to Euston quite a lot recently I can safely say the Pendolino's are excellent units and the punctuality on the WCML is improving rapidly!
Active tilt is just amazing...especially from the comfort of a first class seat sipping wine and enjoying the snacks on offer.
In this case it was one of the old Royal Mail networkers which caused the chaos.
Sadly the double track nature of the WCML makes delays like this inevitable!

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:58 pm

Royal Mail networkers are interesting, in that they are actually 319s with a Networker cab front. Strange confusion of different design periods if you ask me!

Thrashin · Post by **Thrashin** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:14 pm

How old are the 325s? They can't be that old, surely.

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:16 pm

crosscountry wrote:
Whitemoor wrote:probaly a pendo already knackered now its cleared 125mph all the way, maybe Virgin ought to take a leaf out of GNER`s book?
Why the need to make a jibe at Virgin.
Having been travelling to Euston quite a lot recently I can safely say the Pendolino's are excellent units and the punctuality on the WCML is improving rapidly!
Active tilt is just amazing...especially from the comfort of a first class seat sipping wine and enjoying the snacks on offer.
In this case it was one of the old Royal Mail networkers which caused the chaos.
Sadly the double track nature of the WCML makes delays like this inevitable!

Yup. They're good for first class but why should people who go standard suffer with . and the awful smell of toilets, especially when someone flushes it!

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