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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:35 pm
by markw
The original unit.
No Lucazone, your posting came across as typically sneering and trying to be clever. That's not just my view otherwise rwaceyw wouldn't have made the comment he did. It was obviously an April Fool, and others like Jeff had joined in the gag with other postings. At one time these boards would often throw up an amusing thread like that were one person would start and others join in. Instead you felt it necessary to put forward some forensic case why this photo wasn't real. What the hell was wrong with just playing along and seeing what other amusing additions others could have posted instead of stamping in and spoiling the whole thing? It was completely uneccesary.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:46 pm
by rwaceyw
Very well said Mark
David
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 2:39 pm
by LucaZone
hehe april fools with dictatorship rules. Play along or F-off ay? and you claim im the one being the spoil sport...........
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 3:56 pm
by rwaceyw
Who said you had to play along? Just not spoil it for others by being a spoilsport
David
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:42 pm
by petermakosch
ffs!
Look at this thread. People gave their comments. . . some comments were more professional than others, but then the way i took it was yes, LucaZone was poinging out what was wrong. You think
everyone knew it was an April Fools?
It's just sad how people are always trying to get one up on each other here. . . let it go. It doesnt win you any points in life

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 4:47 pm
by johncard
I'm sorry but I think I ought to explain why I'm sitting on the fence on this one...
Until now, I (and undoubtedly others aswell) thought that April Fools was an all-day thing, with part of the idea (the
fun) being in trying to work out what's real and what's not

, however what you (and arabiandisco in the other thread) are saying is that you have to play along until 12, and then make a joke of it afterwards. I don't know where the people in question stand here, but I think it's unfair just to slate them if they misunderstood.
I think I can see now why some people don't really bother with April Fools, and be as humorous (or not as the case may be) throughout the year. In a way, it's too 'regulated' IMHO.
John[/i]
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 5:56 pm
by markw
Peter, for someone who hasn't been above trying to score points himself in the past your post is bewildering. No one is trying to "score points", the whole thing was clearly an April Fool (for God's sake, who on Earth actually believed that BREL would build a unit without the Board's say so, be able to test it in open daylight without anyone knowing and the whole thing be kept under wraps for nearly thirty years until we bought some documents to help us with an MSTS project? Do you really think that is at all plausible?) but the point is there was no need for Lucazone to sit there and smugly pull apart a picture and announcing grandly that it's clearly a fake (yes, I spent all of five minutes on it, that's why...) and thereby stopping anyone else from joining in the fun by posting other jokey comments about "secret trains" and generally having a bit of a laugh, which is what the whole thing is about. Some people clearly take trains and railways too seriously.
As for your comments Lucazone, they are peurile and immature. I pointed out what half a dozen people have said to me in e-mail and pm, that your unnecessary proclamation as to the clearly doctored picture just spoiled the whole thing and was a shame. Nothing about dictatorships, nothing about "rules", just that it would have been a bit of fun to develop the joke a bit further but your contribution stopped it dead. That you have difficulty accepting the comments is clear in your response, but really does you no credit at all.
It really is a sign of how bad this place has become that something that a year or so ago would have been seen for what it is and made into a light relief thread by others, has turned out instead to have been killed by a frankly spiteful posting and an on-going post mortem. Perhaps I should not have responded, but frankly unless someone does then the likes of this incident will continue and the people concerned will not see how their actions are just mean, spiteful and create friction.
As to the other point, the tradition is April Fools pranks should be completed by 12 noon, but when newspapers, the TV and radio, and magazines plus now the web enjoy making up April Fools stories, that tradition seems to be on the way out. after all an April edition of a Railway magazine which once famously run a piece on the "fact" main line steam would have to carry full TOPS numbers and yellow smokeboxes, can't be recalled at 12 noon to include the retraction! In any case, the comments about the picture and the prank were made before mid-day, so the whole time thing isn't what is being talked about here.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:30 pm
by LucaZone
you have far to much time on your hands if you able to write vastly elogated replies that arent worth reading.
I thought this thread was going well until you both jumped on me for being myself! maybe you should look back and decide who actually caused this thread turn.
im imature and silly? yet you have hoards and gangs emailing you left and right about me....lol
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:33 pm
by LucaZone
rwaceyw wrote:Who said you had to play along? Just not spoil it for others by being a spoilsport
David
Mark certainly! his reply to the thread after letting others mingle around it instantly picked out all those who had said it was a fake from the start. And not in a nice way either.
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 6:35 pm
by rwaceyw
LucaZone wrote:you have far to much time on your hands if you able to write vastly elogated replies that arent worth reading.
Course its worth reading, you may learn a lesson or two from it.
David
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:52 pm
by ianmacmillan
I'm not getting involved in this arguement but I must say I enjoyed the joke.
I was waiting til later to post a "well done" comment for the best joke.
The givaway for me was the supposed secrecy.
As BREL were working at arms length from BR, I don't think they would have been so caucious.
I would imagine the power bogies were similar to SR ones and it would have been easy to fit standard guage running gear to an Irish unit and arrange a test run to try to sell the idea to the BR board.
I'm just surprised it didn't happen.
Good one Mark.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:18 pm
by ianmacmillan
And what about the earlier BUT unit that Swindon secretly tested on the closed Highworth branch.
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 8:41 pm
by petermakosch
lol, Highworth!!
Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:05 pm
by Elojikal
Come on people... us lot are all pretty proud by nature and sometimes we get a bit carried away in our posts. Let's all just try to let bygones be bygones and have a laugh.

Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:10 pm
by BR7MT
Hahahaha!
