Highest quality train in relation to significance of service

nwallace · Post by **nwallace** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:08 pm

What do commuters need comfy seats for anyway? Most end up standing and they are only going short distances? Well unless they are commuting to London fro msomewhere silly like Manchester

jimbob · Post by **jimbob** » Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:59 pm

Because, those that are lucky enough to get a seat, want one that is comfy. Also a 30 min off peak journey to London, takes nearly double that in the peaks for "one" reason or another.

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 10:32 am

A class 377 from London Bridge to Forest Hill. A highly controversial comment I know, but when not in the rush hour, these trains are quite comfy.
If you are lucky, you can catch a Class 90 or DBSO hauled service from Liverpool Street to Stratford and vice versa.
Class 171 London Bridge-East Croydon is also better than a 375 or a 4xx. In relations to the vibrations, think of it as a massage.

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:24 pm

nwallace wrote:What do commuters need comfy seats for anyway? Most end up standing and they are only going short distances? Well unless they are commuting to London fro msomewhere silly like Manchester

Basingstoke - London: prime commuting territory. 45-50 minutes on a fast train.

You wanna stand for that long? I don't.

nwallace · Post by **nwallace** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 5:48 pm

See my comment of Communitg from somewhere silly :p

Nah I realise that commuting distances are a bit longer doon there than up here.

I was well irritated that my bus was 20 mins late this morning, for the first time ever my lift was waiting for me!

micksasse · Post by **micksasse** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:42 pm

Surprised nobody's mentioned the Welsh valleys services at weekends, Cardiff - Rhymney, where train quality as against significance is concerned!

This is what quality looked like on Saturday

simont · Post by **simont** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:12 pm

Oh, of course, yeah. When you consider that almost all other Valley lines services are Pacers, it's even odder.

micksasse · Post by **micksasse** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 11:16 pm

Odd in an especially beautiful way...

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:26 pm

simont wrote:A while back someone pointed out that with the ex-Connex Express 319s under Thameslink use, and sometimes found on the Wimbledon/Sutton service, this provides some of the most luxurious inner-suburban services ever seen.

I whole heartedly agree with this. I went on one today, they have tables, waltz type seat layout and everything! The seats are nice too. I hope Thameslink are not going to change them. Why can't all 319s be like this?

simont · Post by **simont** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:45 pm

Well, that's fine for Bedford - Brighton, but on an inner-suburban service, you don't need luxury, just capacity, so as an interior it's suitable for about half of the 319s- the trouble is Thameslink can't seem to keep the express half and the suburban half segregated.

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:38 pm

Well I saw one on a rare service from London Bridge-Wimbledon, and I often see them doing Beckenham Junction duties. The LBE type 319s are alright, they have a nice colour scheme. Then you have some of the Thameslink 319s with an interior identical to a 456 which is quite frankly, depressing.

philbozz · Post by **philbozz** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:50 pm

Occasionally we get a 170 or 158 on the Brum-Walsall-Stafford route, makes a pleasant change from smelly 150s and 323s

Hymek · Post by **Hymek** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:26 pm

If your lucky or travelling after the evening rush hour from brum - worcester you can sometimes get the ex MML 170s central are using and they have a very nice interior, especially compared to the 150 splinters usually running the route

joea1 · Post by **joea1** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:29 pm

Apparantly the first class is free on those trains.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 5:45 pm

It is - if you can distinguish it from standard class! The renta rat first class on Central is also free, and that is well worth waiting for a seat.