Virgin XC Trains

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:41 pm

*giggle* Well?

fairlie · Post by **fairlie** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:55 pm

Couldn't we have a neither option?

Or at least one for 47 and Mk2s.

117305 · Post by **117305** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:01 pm

would go for 47s and mk2s as well espically if the bso had no arm rests in inbetween the seats god for an overnight!

45002 · Post by **45002** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:04 am

Peter
I cant vote for any of them 220,221 they are both like High speed dmu Coffins on wheels,And those Highspeed Emu,s of theres
Pendolino,s Remind me of a Tube Train in the Rush hour,Cant move or Breath....
Save the HST.s
Bring back the APT'S, i road on one of them from Glasgow to London and it was fab, Shame the Torys did not Invest in them, if they did will would have whole fleet of APT TWO'S Now and not those Red Sardine Cans....

staticxfreak · Post by **staticxfreak** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 1:27 am

Having travelled behind a 47/86 in a mk2 from Preston to Teignmouth a few times, then travelled from York to Newcastle a few times on a voyager, I can tell you I'd rather be going to Devon which took about 5/6 hours than be going from York to Newcastle which takes 1 hour, comfort wise. But my girlfriends in Newcastle so i'd travel on nethin to see her, even a voyager..

So far i've been lucky, both times I've been up to see her I've had 158's from Blackburn to Leeds/York. I've seen pictures of 150's on the Blackpool to York's, no spank you.... anyway, back to topic, loco and stock anyday

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:50 am

HST

eddief · Post by **eddief** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:08 pm

47 and mark 2's any day, cant beat loco haulage

. Fail to see any real difference between voyagers and the supers other then the extra coach and tilt though thats nothing really.

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:13 pm

The last trip I made on Virgin was a 47 and MKII's instead of the booked HST.
I have to say that from a normal punters view it has very little going for it.

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 12:38 pm

When I lived in Birmingham I'd dread getting a 47 simply because in the last year of so of 47s on cross country timekeeping was terrible as 9 times out of 10 i'd miss my connection in Leeds, whereas HSTs kept time 9 times out of 10

nigelgresley · Post by **nigelgresley** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:43 pm

Based upon my experiences of VXC travel I would plump for an HST - 47s seemed always to be loosing time and I have had numerous nighmarish journeys on voyagers (standing room only between York and Oxford not the best way to encourage travel by train).

slipdigby · Post by **slipdigby** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 4:42 pm

staticxfreak wrote: So far i've been lucky, both times I've been up to see her I've had 158's from Blackburn to Leeds/York.

If you can handle a Pendelino for an hour and a half, have you considered going via Preston and Carlisle (and onto Newcastle via 156)?

Slip

45002 · Post by **45002** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 7:45 pm

When i went to Newcastle upon Tyne last year
I took a class170 from Birmingham new street to liverpool lime street
From Liverpool to York on a class 158 , York to Newcastle on a class 91 and mk4's and did the same for the return trip, with plenty of seats on all the trains and only the GNER train was late by 7mins
Yes it took Longer
Yes it Cost more about Â£16.00 More and that was with My Disabled railcard(With my railcard there are No Restriction on when i can travel on Saver Tickets)
And all this to avoid those Red Sardine Cans

staticxfreak · Post by **staticxfreak** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 10:04 pm

slipdigby wrote:
staticxfreak wrote: So far i've been lucky, both times I've been up to see her I've had 158's from Blackburn to Leeds/York.

If you can handle a Pendelino for an hour and a half, have you considered going via Preston and Carlisle (and onto Newcastle via 156)?

Slip

I've thought about it but it takes longer.... less time with my baby

I'm just gonna keep risking it and hopefully I won't get a 150 or somethin, 1 1/2 hours on a 150, nah thanks

charlierc · Post by **charlierc** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 1:40 pm

The Intercity 125 is king for me.

I like 47's as well.

Charles

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 11:10 am

LHCS has many benefits compared to vomiters. But my experiences of them were not always that good - 47 hauled cross country services (and I started using them before privatisation) were almost always dirty, corwded and horribly late in my experience. Vomiters are at least usually clean (shame about the other two). HSTs towards the end of their Virgin days were pretty . too as far as being clean goes.

my choice for inter city travel would never include under-floor engines though, so I'd have to go for HSTs, provided they were refurbished.

Atomic Systems

Virgin XC Trains

Which Virgin XC Trains are Better?

Virgin XC Trains

Sorry PETER

NO TO THE RED