Weekend Juniper diagrams out of Guildford

yerkes · Post by **yerkes** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:19 am

Hi there,

I'm in Guildford this coming Saturday and wondering whether JOPs are in use these days on Ascot services. I know there are a few of you out there from SWT territory, so can any of you enlighten me?

TIA,

Michael
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southcoasttrains · Post by **southcoasttrains** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:44 pm

They mainly go on the Reading services, but they've been known to venture to other areas.

yerkes · Post by **yerkes** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 12:45 pm

Thanks - so is it Desiros on the Ascot route?

Michael
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trains2 · Post by **trains2** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:10 pm

Most likely, although you may find yourself in a slammer, you never know

(saying that I saw an ancient BEP yesterday (i.e. 411 with a buffet) which i was quite astonished at!)

Cheers

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:55 pm

Whenever I see anything on the Guildford - Ascot line it's been a 458

birminghamnewstreet · Post by **birminghamnewstreet** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:19 pm

arabiandisco wrote:Whenever I see anything on the Guildford - Ascot line it's been a 458

I see them occasionly on a saturday, but its allways been 450's when ive been there

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 9:41 pm

I only ever see one anyway, as I'm crossing by sturt lane jcn on the main line - there's sometimes an 8x458 on the Frimley line (headed towards Frimley) as my train (the 0715 ex Basingstoke Yeovil Jcn - Waterloo) crosses. I guess it's probably about 0735 by then.

Mole259 · Post by **Mole259** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:29 pm

I live on the Ascot-Guildford line so let me enlighten you all

458's regularly now run trains to reading from london via acot, though you get the occasional 421.

450's now run ascot-guildford services, nothing else.

yerkes · Post by **yerkes** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 10:34 pm

Thanks all for your replies. Guess I won't be seeing many JOPs then (some of you wouldn't be too disappointed by that, I imagine).

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birminghamnewstreet · Tue Nov 30, 2004 11:11 pm

im a fan of 458's, much better then 450's i think. i feel sorry for the driver tho- so cramped.

yerkes · Post by **yerkes** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:27 am

Voyager Nut,

OOI why do you prefer 458s to 450s? Is it the design, performance, or what? I've only ever heard bad things about 458s so am intrigued!

Michael
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Mole259 · Post by **Mole259** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:49 am

True, the 458's have had hundreds of problems whent they were brought into service. This is why desiros have come in. Though they aren't the most reliable, they are about 3 times more reliable then the junipers.

I personally prefer the 450's to the 458's, but i did quite like the 458's. They are plagued with problems though which means SWT has to let them go at some point. Apparantly they did about an average of 8000 miles before a breakdown, 450's do about 25000 miles on average before breakdown.

The slammers did 93000 miles on average before breakdown!

SlinkyWizard · Post by **SlinkyWizard** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:27 pm

Sorry??? 98,000????

Slammers currently get 45,000mpc
458 currently get 26,000mpc
450 currently get 8000mpc

Regards,

James Mayl
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yerkes · Post by **yerkes** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:33 pm

Just thought I'd thank you all for your replies and let you know that I've posted a few shots at http://gricer.fotopic.net/c359187.html

Michael

arabiandisco · Post by **arabiandisco** » Sat Dec 04, 2004 9:40 pm

When slammers were looked after you could get 100k mpc.