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The 'Westerns' That Never Where
Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 10:44 pm
by rwaceyw
Many people think the number range of the Class 52 'Westerns' stops at D1073, but in fact 100 names where put forward, for a build that was expected to be larger than it actually was. Perhaps if history had been re-written and more of the Westerns had been ordered, these locos would have been powering trains along the GWML:
D1074
Western Valiant
D1075
Western Sceptre
D1076
Western Diadem
D1077
Western Jewel
D1078
Western Crown
D1079
Western Victor
D1080
Western Lustre
D1081
Western Eagle
D1082
Western Hawk
D1083
Western Falcon
D1084
Western Comet
D1085
Western Planet
D1086
Western Isle
D1087
Western Meteor
D1088
Western Zephyr
D1089
Western Mistral
D1090
Western Flower
D1091
Western Rose
D1092
Western Garland
D1093
Western Emblem
D1094
Western Legend
D1095
Western Heritage
D1096
Western Fury
D1097
Western Rapier
D1098
Western Sabre
D1099
Western Javelin
David
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 6:51 am
by qzdcg8
Not the only case - there should have been 27 EM2's but only 7 were built - perhaps if all 27 had been built, the GCR might have been 1500V electrified all the way to Marylebone and still be with us?
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:28 am
by arabiandisco
the run of cl46s stopped about 20 short I think, and the electrical equipment that was to go into them (it had already been made) ended up in some 47s.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 8:45 am
by martinhodgson
Was there ever a Western called Western Gladiator? I had an OO gauge model of one with that name.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 11:38 am
by seaeagle
Was there ever a Western called Western Gladiator?
D1016 was called WESTERN GLADIATOR, nameplate was applied at Swindon when loco was built in February 1963 and removed when loco was withdrawn from service in December 1975.
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 3:46 pm
by trainmad
No 'Western Super Mare' then?
Me and Alex (fairlie) had our 'Western' names
Western Superpower
Western Takeaway
Western President
Western World
Western Policy (sorry David

)
Western Western
Western Eastern
Western Dictator
Western Overlord
Western Warship
Western BBQ
Western Jester
Western Terrorist
Western Divider
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 4:27 pm
by nwallace
Western Takeaway
Cheesburger with chips, yes i want salad and fried onions
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 6:05 pm
by rwaceyw
Could always have D1100 'Middle Eastern'..its what the Desert Sand livery was made for
David
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:07 pm
by BR7MT
Shouldn't that be Western .-Up?
western
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 7:46 pm
by safathome
seeing they were on the Western region and WERE the premier loco so, First Great Western or Western are missed
western fantasic
western music
western triumph
western catch me if you can
western south western
western express
western power
western stormer
Posted: Wed May 26, 2004 9:56 pm
by jbilton
Western Movie...(spagetti).........
More seriously I think I read somewhere they weren't going to be westerns at all originally...but named after places in the west country...like D1000 being called "Chedder Gourge".
Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 11:32 am
by johndibben
jbilton wrote:More seriously I think I read somewhere they weren't going to be westerns at all originally...but named after places in the west country...like D1000 being called "Chedder Gourge".
To confirm your memory is correct

Posted: Fri May 28, 2004 9:14 pm
by FGWDriver929
Speaking of westerns, can anone shed any light on why D1015 has been at old oak common for the better part of a month now?
Does she 'live' there now?, or is it a temporary home?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2004 2:30 pm
by jimmyladd
FGWDriver929 wrote:Speaking of westerns, can anone shed any light on why D1015 has been at old oak common for the better part of a month now?
Does she 'live' there now?, or is it a temporary home?
Is it something to do with her gearbox rebuild?
Posted: Sun May 30, 2004 5:21 pm
by salopiangrowler
jimmyladd wrote:FGWDriver929 wrote:Speaking of westerns, can anone shed any light on why D1015 has been at old oak common for the better part of a month now?
Does she 'live' there now?, or is it a temporary home?
Is it something to do with her gearbox rebuild?
It is gearbox but its worth the rebuild as they found all the ball bearings in the oil sump. Could have been catastrophic if still running. So its being nursed back to health.