My passenger eye view videos

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:04 pm

A continuation of my other topic. Which if you had read, you will know that I would like to share my recordings with a bigger audience and release it either via VHS or CD. So far however, there hasn't been much of an interest shown in the recordings. And for me to fork out for either a second VCR or a TV/video capture card I really would need to know that there is an interest in the recordings. I will only be releasing the videos via VHS or CD. I won't be uploading the footage to the web, as the footage is very long i.e. 20 mins, 30 mins, 45 mins, 60 mins. And the size of the files will be HUGE(up to 240MB for instance at a rough guess). The size of the files could be compressed, though the picture quality would suffer a little, but the sound quality would suffer quite poorly. So the videos would be best experienced at the max picture and sound quality.

The price of the VHS option would be up to about Â£8.50 for a 4 hour tape, or Â£6 for a video with 2 hours of footage. This will be to cover the cost of the new blank tapes, recorded delivery P&P and a a charge for me, as transferring the footage from tape to tape will require some effort and be time consuming. The VHS option would offer the best picture and sound quality on all of the material.

The price for the CD option would be Â£3.75. This will be to cover the cost of a new CD, recorded delivery post & packing, and a small charge for me. The extra charge for me won't be as much as the VHS option as getting the CD's burned will require not as much effort as the VHS option. At a guess, a CD would be able to hold up to 5 hours worth of footage.

Sample videos of the films will be uploaded to UKTS so that you can see the quality of the films before deciding to purchase.

The films currently are:

- Reading-London Paddington HST passenger eye view

- Bristol Temple Meads-Cardiff Central Class 158 passenger eye view

- Bristol Temple Meads-Cardiff Central Class 37 passenger eye view

- Bath Spa-Bristol Temple Meads Class 37 passenger eye view

- Bristol Temple Meads-Weymouth Class 37 passenger eye view(filmed over 3 seperate journeys) 2 and a half hour journey!

- Wolverhampton-Birminham New Street Class 47 passenger eye view

- Manchester Picadilly. Various trains footage from 1998.

- Bristol Temple Meads. Various trains footage from 1998.

- London Waterloo. Various trains footage from 1998.

- Elephant & Castle. Footage of Thameslink EMU's from 1998.

- West Somerset Railway. Footage from WSR Diesel Gala in 1999. Including exterior shots, and passenger eye views & interior of carriages footage aboard Class 50's, Western's, and a steam train.

- Newport. Various Trains footage from 1998.

And hopefully more passenger eye view's to be filmed this year, including filming aboard services in the South Wales area, and somewhere in the South West Trains and South Central Trains area.

Please vote if you're interested. And I will monitor how the votes are going. If however, the votes aren't high enough then I'll probably decide not to fork out for the equipment needed, I won't be offended, and will keep the footage for my own personal enjoyment, along with the upcoming material.

ianmacmillan · Post by **ianmacmillan** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:17 pm

Should this subject not be in the Real Railway Discussion forum?

It's nothing to do with MSTS.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:20 pm

Yes, perhaps a moderator can move it then please.

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:28 pm

Moved

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Also, interested in seeing sample vids

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David

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:03 pm

OK, I just placed a vote on your behalf.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 5:50 pm

Also, forgot to mention.

Bristol Temple Meads-Exeter St Davids. Voyager passenger eye view. 55 mins in duration.

I'll announce when new films have been filmed.

However, I will have to see somewhat more votes than there is currently before I even think about getting the equipo to transfer to VHS or CD!

johncas · Post by **johncas** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 9:38 pm

DVD will do fine for me got 3 DVD players in the house and one on the PC

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:27 pm

Yes, could do do them on DVD as well as the CD option. I think you can burn to DVD's on my PC.

Just one thing though, how much are blank DVD's?

MeridianNick · Post by **MeridianNick** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:05 pm

These do sound good, though an online sample (even some stills) would be good

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Thu Apr 01, 2004 6:12 pm

XPTE wrote:Yes, could do do them on DVD as well as the CD option. I think you can burn to DVD's on my PC.

Just one thing though, how much are blank DVD's?

You only need a CD-R and make a video CD.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Sat Apr 03, 2004 12:48 pm

Just some additional info as I look through the footage.

The Manchester Picadilly footage from '98 is 7 minutes. The West Somerset Railway Diesel Gala footage from '99 is 31 minutes.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Wed Jun 02, 2004 11:43 pm

Been a while.........

Good news and bad news about these videos......

The bad news is I unfortunately won't be able to offer the footage on CD. I did buy a TV card a couple of months ago. But to cut the story short, I wasn't satisfied with it so I took it back for a refund. Plus it would mean I'd have to buy a sound card too to get sound on the MPEG files. A better quality TV card would be somewhat more expensive, and I'm not confident I'd be able to recover the costs. So the CD option is out I'm afraid.

Three items of good news.

1) I will very shortly be able to distribute the footage via good ol' VHS. I am pretty much able to do this now actually as I've got all the equipment needed anyway(VCR and camcorder and Scart connector kit), but I need to list full details of all the footage first. Footage will be recorded directly from the camcorder tapes onto brand new blank VHS tapes in SP mode. Picture and sound quality excellent.

2) Also, the price of the VHS option will be a little lower than previously mentioned.

3) And also, I have been out and about over the past couple of months doing some further filming. New passenger eye view vids have been filmed aboard Virgin Trains, Wessex Trains, South Eastern Trains, and South West Trains. Maybe about 2 or 3 more further films are planned over the Summer.

As for being able to preview the footage before you decide to buy any. Well there's no way I'd personally be able to upload MPEG files to UKTS. So I'll have to think of an alternative way.

Full details soon!

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 12:54 pm

Just a small question. Is Matt happy for you to be using UKT to sell commercial products like this? and using the download system in this way?

I thought there was a big uproar that commercial activity must have its own site to operate from and use the UKT forums simply for discussion concerning its products. But not selling them.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:27 pm

These aren't commercial products. They're home made videos, originally filmed for my own personal enjoyment. And now I'd like to share them with fellow train buffs for a small charge. And the perfect place to advertise them, is a forum full of train buffs.

If Matt isn't happy with me selling the videos in this way, then all he has to do is say so and I won't bother. Though I do believe there's another guy on these forums who has previously advertised his home made trains videos, and I don't think Matt had a problem with that. This is no different.

To be honest, I don't think the sales of the videos will be that great. I don't think I'll sell more than about 20. Hence why I'm not forking out for an expensive TV capture card as I don't think I would re-coup my costs easily. So this idea isn't going to make me an entrepeanour. And believe it or not, I'm hoping I don't get bombarded with too many orders as I will find it difficult being able to find the time to get all the videos done. But as I don't have to fork out for any equipment atall through selling them via VHS I've nothing to lose. And I'm intending to use any/some profit I do make to go towards funding of train travel to film more videos.

What's the download system got to do with it? I won't be able to upload the videos or even sample videos to UKTS anyway.

The prices are yet to be confirmed. But here are the fees I will be charging based on per hour of footage.

up to 1 hour - Â£1
up to 2 hours - Â£1.90
up to 3 hours - Â£2.70
up to 4 hours - Â£3.40

The additional charges will be the cost of a new blank VHS tape and of course the post & packing charge. These charges will be confirmed.

By the way, please don't vote in the poll anymore anyone. I've tried to close down the poll but I can't. The only option now available is via VHS. And unfortunately it won't be possible for me to preview the videos. The best way of finding out if the videos are good value or not is if maybe a few people who purchase the videos could post their comments.

XPTE · Post by **XPTE** » Thu Jun 03, 2004 7:26 pm

Someone else just voted to be able to see a preview of the videos. Unfortunately this won't be possible as I don't have a TV capture card or similar device to transfer the footage to MPEG files to upload.

I'm about to start posting full details of the films available, along with the full run down of the prices. I'll start a new thread, and let this current thread slip down the archives, as when people see it has a poll attached they may think I'm still talking about the options available.

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