Atomic Systems

nwallace wrote:According to that STV report, Carrbridge is between Aviemore and Grantown-on-spey...
Weegies.

Not only STV, but Moray Firth Radio, who should know better, carry the same geographical howler.

Been following this story closely as Carrbridge is my local station. No chance of gaining any first-hand reports, however, as we have been completely snowed in since before Christmas.

However, I can confirm that it was snowing like billy-o yesterday afternoon when the incident took place, and has been more or less ever since. The A9 between Aviemore and Inverness is now closed, so no alternative road transport either!

Apparently the locomotive demolished someone's garden shed - perhaps they should just leave him the class 66 "shed" as a replacement.

stuartpalmer wrote: Not only STV, but Moray Firth Radio, who should know better, carry the same geographical howler.

Been following this story closely as Carrbridge is my local station. No chance of gaining any first-hand reports, however, as we have been completely snowed in since before Christmas.

However, I can confirm that it was snowing like billy-o yesterday afternoon when the incident took place, and has been more or less ever since. The A9 between Aviemore and Inverness is now closed, so no alternative road transport either!

Apparently the locomotive demolished someone's garden shed - perhaps they should just leave him the class 66 "shed" as a replacement.

Ha a shed plowed into a shed,
I can see it now shed wars...

Work is in progress today on removing the bogies of the derailed container wagons - by road! - quite a difficult task given the narrow roads and tight corners in the village. Not sure why they couldn't just run an engineering train up the line.

Becuase the platform sides would prevent the stabilizers from being extended

from what iv seen, read and know the odds are the 66's brakes problaby jammed in the off position.....they like to do that when its cold same with the containers. the aws probably shorted out due to snow.....yes they do this sometimes i know this for a fact drive a class 60 over one the other day.....and no alarm bells in the cab.....hummmm

plewsy2105

It was reported that the AWS was functioning but the driver may have not done the cold wether brake test that they should do every few min to prevent as you say ice build up the network (signaling) looks as it was slowing the train to a stop as a set of point's were set against this train but ofcause nothing could be done about it.

Nothing official reported yet, only that they believe the brakes were involved.

I've already seen that - it still only mentions possible problems with the brakes.

wolly1380 wrote:It was reported that the AWS was functioning but the driver may have not done the cold wether brake test that they should do every few min to prevent as you say ice build up the network (signaling) looks as it was slowing the train to a stop as a set of point's were set against this train but ofcause nothing could be done about it.

Ther is only one thing that will slow/stop a train:the driver.Red lights do not stop trains.

The one thing that stopped this one wasn't the driver, it was the impact with mother earth, a load of trees and, I'm told, a shed. The driver can't stop the train if his brakes weren't operable.

timenec wrote: Ther is only one thing that will slow/stop a train:the driver.......

I think you're overlooking a few other things with that statement. How about an unacknowledged vigilance device, unacknowledged AWS warning or speed limiter for starters?

Andy L

And then TPWS....

AndyUK wrote:

timenec wrote: Ther is only one thing that will slow/stop a train:the driver.......

I think you're overlooking a few other things with that statement. How about an unacknowledged vigilance device, unacknowledged AWS warning or speed limiter for starters?

Andy L

Both things you mention can be isolated and speed limiters only cut power until speed is reduced (happened to me with a 66 below 75mph).In the limit,red lights do not stop trains.

Still say, the driver just moves a handle or similar device to cause the brakes to activate, he doesn't stop the train if there's a fault somewhere.