Fell locomotive

keithgunn · Post by **keithgunn** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 11:04 am

Just to let everyone know I have the Fell experimental Loco on the drawing board so to speak.
I know it's an ugly looking brute of a loco but at the time it's was the only scanned drawings I had.
Construction is about 90% finished, and texturing is about 50%.
I am hopeful for a finish date in mid April, as I only go on the computer 2 to 3 hours a week and it has taken me a couple of months to get this far.

Regards Keith

Baily9531 · Post by **Baily9531** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 12:14 pm

Good luck with it, cant wait to see this iteresting yet wierd loco out in msts, ive watched a BTC film on the fell, he was a very clever bloke, looks like it was bizarre to drive as well, engaging one engine at a time at a certain speed to get max tractive effort and speed. lovely!

keithgunn · Post by **keithgunn** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:26 pm

Yes I have been wondering how to simulate the driving aspect as well, I assume it will need a heavily modified .eng file to try and replicate bringing it the engines in sequence plus some complex sound files as well.
I don't even want to think what the cab layout was like!
For the moment my main priority is getting the basic working model to a position where it can be downloaded, after that I could well be looking for help with the various .eng sound and cab files.

Keith

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 1:33 pm

Will do the usual searching!
How about this for a start?

http://www-g.eng.cam.ac.uk/125/achievem ... page50.htm

Plenty of info here, including output + cab controls (no pics)

http://www.nelmes.fsnet.co.uk/paxman/paxfell.htm

And a bit more!

http://www.therailwaycentre.com/Pages%2 ... _Fell.html

keithgunn · Post by **keithgunn** » Mon Mar 24, 2003 2:02 pm

Thanks for the links, although I use the last two sites quite a lot and have them bookmarked both at home and at work. Incidentaly it was the Paxman site that got me interested in the Fell in the first place.

I have not seen the Ricardo site before and it's quite interesting, the photo at Marylebone is quite a common one though. I hadn't realised Ricardo was also involved with Citroen and Peugeot diesel engines for cars as early as the 1930s, for some reason I always thought diesels wern't used in cars untill the late 1970s

Thanks for the info

Keith

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:52 pm

Well done...Excellent...Keep up the good work...Don't give up now...(etc. and all the other things we should say to prototypical modellers)

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Tue Mar 25, 2003 10:55 pm

By the way etc. is an abrieviation of et cetera. Why do people write ect. and say "ec settra"? Why would you use a word you don't know? Its like Del Boys French-isms.

Any way thats all for now. Bonjour Bonjour.

keithgunn · Post by **keithgunn** » Mon Mar 31, 2003 8:56 am

Got a bit more done over the weekend, the model is still about 90% completed with about 80% if the texturing, so not to bad for about 5 hours work. I am quite pleased with it.

I will try and send a screen shot tonight, so that you can see how it is coming along.

By the way how do I attach a screen shot ??????

keithgunn · Post by **keithgunn** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 6:49 pm

screen shot as promised,

As I said before there is still some texturing to complete and the big counter weights and coupling rods.

What do you think ?

Click the image to zoom in

Regards Keith

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 7:24 pm

Looking good. Cant wait until its finished.

garethep · Post by **garethep** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 8:55 pm

I would have thought that the sounds for this locomotive are ideally suited to MSTS even single engined locos sound like they have many engines starting in sequence due to the awful way that the sounds seem to work (or not) Anyway looking really good its nice to see some of the more unusual prototypes being modelled.

Cheers

Gareth

duncharris · Post by **duncharris** » Tue Apr 01, 2003 9:19 pm

Zackybong1 wrote:By the way etc. is an abrieviation of et cetera. Why do people write ect. and say "ec settra"? Why would you use a word you don't know? Its like Del Boys French-isms.

Any way thats all for now. Bonjour Bonjour.

Because either people don't have ellocution lessons or don't know instinctively how to speak 'properly'. There's an 'n' in "goverNment", "often" has a silent t, "schedule" doesn't have a hard 'k' sound in it (but school does), ect, ect

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Wed Apr 02, 2003 8:07 pm

Do you mean to say that schools have become so liberal and culturally diverse that they've actually stopped teaching English?

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Mon Apr 07, 2003 10:22 pm

Model is looking very nice. Any plans to reskin it in black with the early crest?

keithgunn · Post by **keithgunn** » Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:27 pm

Not touched the model for over a week. We had the wifes relatives over from Dublin for a long weekend.
I plan to do both the original lined out black version, and the later green one with the centre part of the coupling removed.
The model is very unstable at the moment though as I can convert it from TSM to MSTS ok and run it ok in MSTS, then I can try to run it again in MSTS some time later and it will fail, sometimes with the unable to load ????? into world and some times with the dreaded fatal error "MSTS will now close".
I think some where along the way the model has become far to complex and I have missed the balance between polygon count and texturing.

So it will be a few more weeks yet, as enthusiasm is a bit low, and I have just got Tim Courts excellent Mid-East. which I want to have a good look at.

I might even start and rebuild a previous downloaded model the "class 29" as an in between project.

Regards Keith