Can someone please do one of these..........................

47522 · Post by **47522** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 8:11 pm

411

As i really like them

421

This i know is out already. Its just so people can see the difference between a 421 and a 411.

PABSUK1 · Post by **PABSUK1** » Tue Jan 07, 2003 9:36 pm

There is one on uktrainsim, but in differnt livery

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 8:14 am

That's a class 411 and it's not a CIG.

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 9:25 am

They all look the same to me. Trains without locomotives. Idea'll never catch on.

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 11:48 am

[Class 421 [Greyhound] One of those?

Personally i prefer the Class 455 in that style.

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 3:58 pm

no.
the picture is a 411.

47522 · Post by **47522** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:00 pm

Yeah i like 411's.

The link you posted Luca zone: thasts a 421 (4-cig)

411s look older

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:38 pm

the 411 looks like it has more modern windows and doors, than the 421. With such little difference, and minor changes to the front what about contacting the 421 Author and seeing what they can do?

buffy500 · Post by **buffy500** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 7:15 pm

The 411's had a refurb recently (well in the last 15 years), which changed the windows and lighting etc...

47522 · Post by **47522** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 9:06 pm

Yeah i read about that.

So any one wanting a go!

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 9:14 pm

Note the front end difference:
Cab Windows (Shape, size and position)
Multiple working pipes (recessed on 421)
Arched corridor doorway on connection
The 411s always looked grubbier and more basic, especially when telling the difference in rail blue and grey!!

Zackybong1 · Post by **Zackybong1** » Fri Jan 10, 2003 9:37 pm

Similar pictures, only a couple of years back...
Around 1960

1967

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 8:56 am

They look like proper EMUs instead of these new brand new EMUs. I'm not against the new ones but I like the old ones better.

47522 · Post by **47522** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:49 pm

yeah

nice pictures

47522 · Post by **47522** » Sat Jan 11, 2003 12:51 pm

Don't for get the deference in to bogie's. only the front bogie is different on the 411.