Wagons- Real and Fictious?

champy · Post by **champy** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 11:02 am

Would the UKTS members be interested in having Real companies logos and liveries , revised into New styles and applied to wagons even if they arent Exact to real life (politically correct)

(i.e never been released or even designed???)

I appreciate that V Rs are a slightly different ball game but would anyone object to having a slightly re editied Esso tanker with a leaping Tiger across the whole of the wagon for instance?

Post by **martinhodgson** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 11:08 am

I think both. We need real wagons for those who want to use it for 'real' operations, however the Esso Tiger idea and ideas to that sort of style would be very good!

saddletank · Post by **saddletank** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 12:14 pm

Personally I only ever drive historical stock, and I think the community would benefit from having more gaps in the real stock list filled, but you do whatever floats your boat.

ForburyLion · Post by **ForburyLion** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 2:32 pm

There's nothing wrong with fictional locomotives/stock.... It would be a good idea if all fictional items were labelled as such though to avoid confusion.

bravedan · Post by **bravedan** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 10:23 pm

Hi!

To follow on from the last two posts, if you are doing fictional items (and why not if it grabs you, not my scene normally, but Hey Ho!) PLEASE SAY SO IN THE README AND ON THE SITE DESCRIPTION............ I thank you!!!!

I have recently been doing some pre-grouping PO stock for Settle and Carlisle 1922. Now, some S&C local wagon owners/users we know all about, but while we know others had wagons, or suspect they had from their business size and type, we know nothing about the wagon types and liveries.
I have therefore made them as accurate as I know how......and the readme's will say..the idea being that if you want to run a pick-up goods, you should have some wagons for the locations along the route available if possible.

What you won't find is out of period appearance items hopefully!!!!!!!!!

In the same vein, I work in a Museum......some of our restoration involves vehicles where everyone that ever knew their details has departed this earth, and only limited fuzzy B&W pics exist of parts of them, rarely of the interiors...and almost never of the cabs....so do we forget any idea of restoring/building a replica, or do we do the best we can............guess what.......we do the best we can, and IF better info comes to light (rarely) we change things...........

So go ahead and do whatever you like, but PLEASE tell the audience!!!!!!!!

Dave

alan2 · Post by **alan2** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 11:01 pm

I would do the filename as FC_PO_wagontype.

So it read's as FiCtional_Private Owner_3plank ....... etc.

This way it show's the file is Fictional, and what type it is.

champy · Post by **champy** » Fri Jan 03, 2003 11:56 pm

Ok then its heading for a landslide vote.
I will show you one of the unfinished efforts that fall into the fictious bracket

<IMG width="1192" height="774" SRC="http://album.atomic-systems.com/showPic.php/55475/ESSO SAVE THE TIGER.jpg">

Now marked B for Bin

Thankyou for your time and effort for replying to this thread
I will stick to the Realistic Wagons

Post by **martinhodgson** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 12:00 am

That web address would be difficult to remember if the train went past at 50mph

champy · Post by **champy** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 12:05 am

It is but im sure it gives a good impression of whats possible?

even at 50mph?

40058 · Post by **40058** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 9:05 am

champy wrote:Ok then its heading for a landslide vote.
I will show you one of the unfinished efforts that fall into the fictious bracket

<IMG width="1192" height="774" SRC="http://album.atomic-systems.com/showPic.php/55475/ESSO SAVE THE TIGER.jpg">

Now marked B for Bin

Thankyou for your time and effort for replying to this thread
I will stick to the Realistic Wagons

Why don't you release that one as a "Limited Edition" shame to waste it...looks very nice.

40058.

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 11:18 am

Why bin it - there are always going to be people who want to run real stuff and there are others who will be more than happy with wagons like that! Its no different to what you can get with 'OO' gauge railways - I once had a wagon with a switch that when triggered, a helicopter went flying off. Had hours of fun with it but I have never seen one in real life! You obviously have a flair for this sort of thing, so why not develop things for a VR system? I always said I'd never do anything that wasn't real but the NWT VR provided the opportunity to design and paint a new livery, something that would look out of place on a real train maybe, but realistic for the purposes for what it was designed for. I am sure they'd appreciate anything you want to try out!

ForburyLion · Post by **ForburyLion** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 1:55 pm

basildd wrote:I once had a wagon with a switch that when triggered, a helicopter went flying off.

Now if that was available for MSTS I'd certainly download it!!!

basildd · Post by **basildd** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 4:16 pm

And half the people on here would probably fly it!

Horgy · Post by **Horgy** » Sat Jan 04, 2003 5:33 pm

Shame the links dead

Horgy

47522 · Post by **47522** » Wed Jan 08, 2003 5:29 pm

no no no no no no no no no no you cant bin it

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