D5401 photo charter & the Freeloader

pendoboy · Post by **pendoboy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 12:59 pm

Hi all,

Yesterday I attended an EMRPS photo charter at the Great Central featuring D5401 with the windcutter wagons.

The purpose of the charter was to give us a days photography and also earn money for the railway and loco group.

Rumour had it a local photographer was going to show up and try and get some free photos. To combat this the train ran with a Disney Princess douvet cover on the front in between locations.

Whilst at Kinchley Lane during a photo stop the said individual turned up and attempted to take some shots. When asked for a contribution for the days events he dashed back to his car and sped off! He`s always said that photo charters don`t interest him so why turn up? After a £20 magazine shot I suppose.

Anyway thanks to Jason for organizing the event and my pics are here...

http://joe-bloggs-railway-photos.fotopic.net/

Regards

Joe Bloggs

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:14 pm

Glad you got some nice shots out of it - I was there in a non photographical capacity (one of the two chaps at the rear - the big one rather than little!) and I was quite surprised how nicely the weather turned out.

I love the framed one with the hedge at Woodthorpe particularly.

Shame about Biggs but he's always hanging around somewhere! First time the little type 2 has ever literally been tucked up under a duvet I think!

trainmad · Post by **trainmad** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:18 pm

Nice idea to combat Mr Biggs there... don't think it would go down well with the normal punters though if every railway did it every day!

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:59 pm

Child: daddy whats that for???

Daddy: Dunno, oi mate whats that for

Driver: stops freeloaders photograping our train

Daddy: Miserable so n so

Child: whaaaa whaaa whaaaa dont wanna leave whaaa.

Spoils a day put really just as well the ERPMS do things during closed hours.

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:45 pm

salopiangrowler wrote:Child: daddy whats that for???

Daddy: Dunno, oi mate whats that for

Driver: stops freeloaders photograping our train

Daddy: Miserable so n so

Child: whaaaa whaaa whaaaa dont wanna leave whaaa.

Spoils a day put really just as well the ERPMS do things during closed hours.

As far as we at the railway are concerned they can do what they want to the loco provided all is safe and unpermanent. If people pay for the priveledge of hiring a train to take photographs where they want to and as they want, why should some (more well known culprits) freeload on this and then potentially flog any pictures to a magazine for 20 quid a time.

pendoboy · Post by **pendoboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:59 am

He is just a Freeloader.

He never gives anything to the railways just takes his shots which tries to sell to mags at £20 a go.

Why should 20 people all pay £40 to hire the train to have him come along and start snapping for free?

It`s not on.

It`s simple next time pay to join us or stay away.

Yes it`s sad to have to put a douvet cover on the front of the loco but if stops people like him it`s what we have to do.

NickBrad · Post by **NickBrad** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:47 pm

Isn't anyone else curious as to what a bunch of hardened railway enthusiasts were doing with a 'Disney princess' duvet cover in their possession?

JSReeves86 · Post by **JSReeves86** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 12:50 pm

NickBrad wrote:Isn't anyone else curious as to what a bunch of hardened railway enthusiasts were doing with a 'Disney princess' duvet cover in their possession?

I was wondering that, I know at New Romney at night the locos are put under blankets but never anything so erm how to put it nicely, naff.

JR

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 1:10 pm

Used to prevent certain local photographers who like to sell shots to magazines getting decent pictures of the train while following around in their cars all day.

salopiangrowler · Post by **salopiangrowler** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 4:44 pm

and to Think Railtour companies spend thousands getting stuff out on the mainline and plenty of people are sending in photo's to claim there riches.

a Princess whatever duvet cover is a bit much isnt it i mean your all grown men.

In all fairness i understand the idea, but on the way to locations when doing the photo shoot on a running day it spoils alot of peoples chance to get a photo of the loco. say you had un suspecting public visiting onces in a blue moon or rail enthusiast's who just take photo's for personal use to say they take pictures of every loco in presevation and saw that coming down with the duvet cover on!!!!!.

Let him claim his 20 quid the group would get more than that anyway. Your gonna get free loaders where ever you go 90% of freeloader shot's never make it.

If he is that bad take a shot of him and post it everywhere and call him whatever you want it might get rid of him.

just dont go between points of photography with a childs duvet cover on it.

pendoboy · Post by **pendoboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:01 pm

Salopion Growler, if you`d payed £40 to go the charter would it not p you off if someone gate crashed the event?

And I assume it would, how would you try to stop it happening?

pendoboy · Post by **pendoboy** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 5:32 pm

Also, railtours are different. The people who pay the cash do so to ride behind the loco. The equivalent would be not buying a ticket and travelling on the train.

I don`t believe anybody on the photo charter would object if somebody in passing had a look and took the odd photo, the difference here is, this bloke(Captain Freeloader) describes himself as a freelance photographer and had the sole aim of following/finding us that day to take photos which he would then attempt to sell to magazines.

We pay for the train hire, he turns up, snaps away and then makes money at our and the railways expense.

Rant over.

Joe Bloggs

http://joe-bloggs-railway-photos.fotopic.net/

davidaward · Post by **davidaward** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:02 pm

Wouldn't a more sensible approach to be to write to the magazines and warn them about thsi individual and ask them not to accept and pictures from this disgraceful cheapskate individual, and thell them why? Admitedly it would then be up to the magazines to practise morality, but at least you'd have done your bit.

Although I think what was done was a damn good laugh and made sure he didn't get no shots, I presume the railway was closed to the public anyway, which enables photo charters with runpasts to operate so the non-existant public wouldn't have been offended by what was seen. I know what I'd have done if I'd have seen it- p'eed myself laughing!!!!

allypally · Post by **allypally** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:09 pm

We operated the line on a possession between Loughborough section signal and Rothley, with all other movements at guard's discretion - just to confirm it was indeed a day when the only train on the line was a charter.

davidaward · Post by **davidaward** » Thu Sep 06, 2007 6:12 pm

allypally wrote:We operated the line on a possession between Loughborough section signal and Rothley, with all other movements at guard's discretion - just to confirm it was indeed a day when the only train on the line was a charter.

There you are then no harm done then those who'd paid- the charter participants got their shots, no fare paying members of the public got upset at seeing the loco like that, freeloader got annoyed and anyone else who saw it probably had a damn good chuckle! So those who were offended- grow up and have a sense of humour!