47851 returns..

nigelgresley · Post by **nigelgresley** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:03 pm

Nice pics - good to see some brush action again!

jdjonny · Post by **jdjonny** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:31 pm

Yep, 31s are brush, I meant to put sulzer

Brush engineering with an EE engine - in theory - hellfire, in practice - gutless and slow!

Jon

alisterbetts · Post by **alisterbetts** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:59 pm

salopiangrowler wrote:Class 31's were built by Brush Loughborough with the original intention of fitting Mirlees engines as per toffee apples ie, Class 30's 31001-3101? which were victims of standardisation as te rest of the 31 fleet came out with an EEsvrt power unit. So all 31's are English Electric Baby Brushes or more commonly Peds, Goyles, and Brians.

Or 'Bannisters'.....

....as in the 4 minute mile

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:10 pm

salopiangrowler wrote:Class 31's were built by Brush Loughborough with the original intention of fitting Mirlees engines as per toffee apples ie, Class 30's 31001-3101? which were victims of standardisation as te rest of the 31 fleet came out with an EEsvrt power unit. So all 31's are English Electric Baby Brushes or more commonly Peds, Goyles, and Brians.

I'm fully aware of all this, just I class diesels by their engines, not makers

David

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:43 pm

alisterbetts wrote:
salopiangrowler wrote:Class 31's were built by Brush Loughborough with the original intention of fitting Mirlees engines as per toffee apples ie, Class 30's 31001-3101? which were victims of standardisation as te rest of the 31 fleet came out with an EEsvrt power unit. So all 31's are English Electric Baby Brushes or more commonly Peds, Goyles, and Brians.
Or 'Bannisters'.....

....as in the 4 minute mile

Oi...leave it...

........

Actually they were all built with Mirlees engines...some even uprated to 1600hp and 2000hp....before the whole fleet were re-engined.
Cheers
Jon

alisterbetts · Post by **alisterbetts** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:44 pm

salopiangrowler wrote:Class 31's were built by Brush Loughborough with the original intention of fitting Mirlees engines as per toffee apples ie, Class 30's 31001-3101? which were victims of standardisation as te rest of the 31 fleet came out with an EEsvrt power unit. So all 31's are English Electric Baby Brushes or more commonly Peds, Goyles, and Brians.

All the peds were built with the Mirrlees prime mover and re-engined - the 31/0s differed through their control equipment, All in all, they were lucky to survive the 60's, let alone the 70's, 80's, 90's and incredibley, the 21st century!

jbilton · Post by **jbilton** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:00 pm

alisterbetts wrote:
salopiangrowler wrote:Class 31's were built by Brush Loughborough with the original intention of fitting Mirlees engines as per toffee apples ie, Class 30's 31001-3101? which were victims of standardisation as te rest of the 31 fleet came out with an EEsvrt power unit. So all 31's are English Electric Baby Brushes or more commonly Peds, Goyles, and Brians.
All the peds were built with the Mirrlees prime mover and re-engined - the 31/0s differed through their control equipment, All in all, they were lucky to survive the 60's, let alone the 70's, 80's, 90's and incredibley, the 21st century!

Lucky...Lucky...

After the re-engineing they settled down...and were reliable freight locos.
I think the ETH conversions and their age doesn't help.
The original conversions were to work ECS mainly.
I do remember being dragged in a failed Lincoln Derby heavy from Woodhouses....and it was a cracking run...didn't know DMUs could go that fast.

Cheers
Jon

chrisj94 · Post by **chrisj94** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:06 pm

Don`t think theres owt wrong with peds meself!

alisterbetts · Post by **alisterbetts** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:15 am

chrisj94 wrote:Don`t think theres owt wrong with peds meself!

hmmm, don't start me on that one!

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:23 am

alisterbetts wrote:
chrisj94 wrote:Don`t think theres owt wrong with peds meself!

hmmm, don't start me on that one!

Must be a thing with different peds. 31270 is decent, however 31435 is a bag of nails....

David