What do you want the most from model railway manufacturers?

1288gaje · Post by **1288gaje** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 5:16 pm

I would prefer my local train!!!!
377/2 with the pantograph!!!!!

Frellis · Post by **Frellis** » Sun Apr 17, 2005 12:07 pm

I just want to see all their old stock brought into line with the new. People say it costs loads to up-grade, but locos like the Bachmann jubilee and the Ivatt 2-6-2T really only need new valve gear! The body detail was spot on. How much would a new valve gear set cost?....seriously come on!
The motors would not need changing as the old ones can actually pull something! I have two standard 5s and neither of them can haul 3 bogies up an incline....yes, you heard me, 3!

Cheers
FRED

hurrella · Post by **hurrella** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:02 pm

Some southern region stock!!! (Including thumpers!)

Can't wait for whatever the Hornby EMU is, especially if it's a CIG or maybe a EPB.

Cheers

Alex

trains2 · Post by **trains2** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 6:07 pm

http://www.dckits.co.uk/
http://www.hurstmodels.co.uk/
http://www.spride.demon.co.uk/

They should get you started

I know they are all kits but thats probably all we're gonna have for a long time, i can't see Bachmann making a 442!!

Also what would i like to see from manufacturers??? Models released on time *cough* Bachmann *cough*.

Garthion · Post by **Garthion** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:13 pm

Me, well a J15

or even, an LMS Garratt

have it twin motored and it'll haul anything you'd care to throw at it

Garthion · Post by **Garthion** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 4:13 pm

Or better still, some RTR NG Stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

40058 · Post by **40058** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:25 pm

I would like to see Hornby release a full rake of coaches like Bachmann do...

For example...

The BR Mk2d stock could do with a BSO & BFK
The One Mk3 set needs a buffet not to mention a DBSO/DVT
The Virgin Mk2/Mk3 again a DVT

There's also a some incomplete Mk1's too and why has Hornby never released a Mk2a FK or BFK ????

I would also like to see more DMU's and EMU's covered..all well and good for me that DC Kits do a great range with Grantham Models doing high quality sprays but a) can work out expensive and b) GM's job list is so much that theres a 16 week waiting list

40058.

Ricardo · Post by **Ricardo** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:40 pm

I really want a decent HST, like the Lima one with a Bachmann or Hornby reliable mechanism, get Hornby on the job pronto!!!

Cheers Richard

1288gaje · Post by **1288gaje** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:42 pm

i would also prefer a 450 and 444!!!!

whrkid2005 · Post by **whrkid2005** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:42 am

What I'd really like to see is L.M.R. 'Royal Scot' class 4-6-0, No.46147, 'The Northamptonshire Regiment' Because I live in Northampton and have many photo's of the Loco!

robin · Post by **robin** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:30 pm

NeutronIC wrote:The Lenz compact system is only 70 quid, you need a power supply which I think is another 30 quid and then after that all you need is your decoders - their basic LE1000A decoders are under a tenner each.

The compact is a very good starter DCC system, everything you need in one box and it supports more than enough for the beginner.

Alternatively, for a really basic intro to DCC the Bachmann DCC systems are even cheaper - at something like 70 quid for one of their complete sets including stock, track and a controller - though that is significantly less capable than the compact (no accessories for example) - but if all you want to do is experiment with DCC it's a great start and fully compatible with all the other DCC's so your stock is perfectly usable as you upgrade to bigger systems including from other manufacturers.

Matt.

The Lenz compact is a pretty damn good DCC package for the money and very feature rich compared to the Bachmann offerring ( although I understand Lenz did the work for Bachmann) . The compact doen't have all the features of the flagship Lenz systems but its not bad. 100 loco addressing instead of 10 for the Bachmann, support for accessories and better sound support too for instance. If someone was trying to choose betwen the two and can stretch to the extra cost of the Lenz then this should be a quick choice, Lenz every time.

robin · Post by **robin** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:33 pm

ianm42 wrote:The correct gauge would help

OO - 4ft 1Â½in

N - 4ft 5in

How about the UK mixing in with pretty much everfywhere else in the world and go to HO scale. That way 16.5mm track is pretty much on the money.

BR7MT · Post by **BR7MT** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:50 pm

The historical reason for the UK using OO as opposed to HO was to provide more room for valve gear within the restricted UK loading gauge while still using HO track.

For instance - Hornby had to curve the connecting rod on the 'Merchant Navy' model to get it to clear the piston rod and the nut used to secure the front rod to the front wheel. How would this be possible in HO scale...

Regards

Dan

robin · Post by **robin** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:37 pm

BR7MT wrote:The historical reason for the UK using OO as opposed to HO was to provide more room for valve gear within the restricted UK loading gauge while still using HO track.

For instance - Hornby had to curve the connecting rod on the 'Merchant Navy' model to get it to clear the piston rod and the nut used to secure the front rod to the front wheel. How would this be possible in HO scale...

Regards

Dan

Folk seem to manage in 3mm and 2mm scales. I have US prototype steam loco with losts of valve gear etc in HO scale. The overall size of the loco is wide compared to UK image but the wheel track is still 16.5mm in HO scale for them too.

I have seen some great models made in HO scale in british outline. It can be done. The technical and cost reasons for making 4mm scale are based on technololgy of 60 years ago not now. It is now entirely possible to mass produce UK outline UK stock.

markw · Post by **markw** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:13 pm

I doubt it will ever happen. Too many people have too much money invested in OO to even consider junking it all to convert over to HO which is what would have to happen if the mass manufacturers stopped making OO and went over to HO.

Lima in the 1970's and the best efforts of the British HO society haven't been able to pursuade UK modellers to move over to HO, so I suspect there is tto much inertia in the market for UK HO to ever be more than a niche operation. In any case, I personally am not that anally retentive to worry about the slightly underscale track gauge, so long as it looks OK, and I suspect the vast majority of modellers are the same. It's the same as those who moan because a model is 1mm too high, or has the window frame 2mm out. On a model you would be hard pressed to notice from most normal viewing angles and I for one don't spend hours with a ruler pouring over a model, or for that matter a real train, to shout "A ha!" every time I find something wrong. If it looks the part then it is right as far as I'm concerned!