New Hornby A4s; Your thoughts?

trainlover123 · Post by **trainlover123** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:29 pm

Hi,

I've just been given 'Mallard' in its original condition, and it is very good, the detail is superb and Hornby got rid of that damned tender drive

, just don't put it on tight curves ( I tried that, the centre axle came off

). What are your thoughts on this excelleny model?

Paul,

UKTRAINSIM · Post by **UKTRAINSIM** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:31 pm

My friend used to have a tender drived version. And that was defeated even by wide bends. Still, I reckon that the newer versions are of a much higher quality. I like the way that Hornby are going.

trainlover123 · Post by **trainlover123** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:33 pm

Hi,

Yep, Bachmann, watch out!

Paul,

LNERandBR · Post by **LNERandBR** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:22 am

The rear axle on the loco has no wheel flange because hornby havent made the Carzzie truck into a bogie like all there other A4's this means that the rear axle will swing about on the corners.

I want one but I'll wait for one with the early crest.

duncharris · Post by **duncharris** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:12 pm

what's a Carzzie truck?

LNERandBR · Post by **LNERandBR** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:38 am

i think Ive spelt it wrong

it's where the rear axle is housed.
It isnt a bogie it's a semi fixed position.

In order to recreate it Hornby have removed the flange from the rear axle to allow it to swing out over sharp corners.

(I did get a C on my English GCSE but I still cannot spell

)

highterrace · Post by **highterrace** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:55 am

It's the Cartazzi truck I believe.

I was thinking about buying one of the Hornby A4s, but I think I might just leave it for the time being as I've just seen some of those gresley teak coaches. Yes, I know the wood goes the wrong way on the doors but when they pass you on a layout you've got to be extremely eagly eyed to spot it!

LNERandBR · Post by **LNERandBR** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:10 am

highterrace wrote:It's the Cartazzi truck I believe.

I was thinking about buying one of the Hornby A4s, but I think I might just leave it for the time being as I've just seen some of those gresley teak coaches. Yes, I know the wood goes the wrong way on the doors but when they pass you on a layout you've got to be extremely eagly eyed to spot it!

That's It I knew what it was but couldnt spell it.

Hornby's Greasly's are great.

But I think I'll have a hard time getting my mom an Dad to pay 35 Quid for each one.

I'll stick to building them from kits it's cheeper.

Hopefully Hornby will rectify the problem with the wood grain on the doors in future production runs.

eddief · Post by **eddief** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:44 pm

LNERandBR wrote:Hornby's Greasly's are great. But I think I'll have a hard time getting my mom an Dad to pay 35 Quid for each one. I'll stick to building them from kits it's cheeper.

Hopefully Hornby will rectify the problem with the wood grain on the doors in future production runs.

I dont think kit building really is cheaper, well it might be but you wont acheive the same effect as Hornby have, plus if Hornby's goes wrong you can get your money back which you cant do if your kit building ruined the model

.

I actually compared an old hornby teak to the new 1, the old models are shorter but the bodyside curve is the same so whilst some people complain about the curve on the body being wrong its no different to the old 1

. The main difference is the lentgh, flush glazing and the body finsh which makes these new teaks MUCH better

.

According to my dad and brother they had a look at a teak coach at York the other week and the grain did go up and down on that, logically it should go up and down as when cutting wood you go with the grain so to cut a door surely it should be up and down panelling as opposed to left to right as that would mean lots of small panels.

spartacus · Post by **spartacus** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:07 pm

I'm just very annoyed Hornby have no plans to produce any in BR maroon this year; so thats waiting till 2007 for those, a Fowler 2-6-4T with cabside windows, an A4 which was likely to get to West Yorks.... etc Thankfully Hornby have finally decided to produce an 8F with the late BR crest without OLE cab flashes.

rwaceyw · Post by **rwaceyw** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:18 pm

spartacus wrote:I'm just very annoyed Hornby have no plans to produce any in BR maroon this year; so thats waiting till 2007 for those, a Fowler 2-6-4T with cabside windows, an A4 which was likely to get to West Yorks.... etc Thankfully Hornby have finally decided to produce an 8F with the late BR crest without OLE cab flashes.

Why not renumber some RTR locos?

David

duncharris · Post by **duncharris** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 8:45 pm

If you want to have a bit of cheap fun, try the Dapol kits, For Â£5-8 quid plus paint, (and tools if you haven't got them already), you get to build a loco and it's not the end of the World (or your wallet) if you bodge it. You can try some weathering perhaps, or try to improve the crude plastic mouldings by model by adding proper wire.

You can choose from a Western Region 9F, BR standard class 4 mogul, L&YR Pug, GWR (large(?)) prairie, class 03/04 shunter, some kind of BR railbus, the prototype Deltic, Stephenson's Rocket.

And if it all goes wrong you can always give it to your cousin as a birthday present.

See http://www.dapol.co.uk/cgi-bin/dapol-di ... /kits.html

highterrace · Post by **highterrace** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:07 pm

If you want a cheap Thompson or Gresley kit try the ones that used to be made by Ian Kirk/Mailcoach, not sure who's making them now, but they weren't bad little kits.

duncharris · Post by **duncharris** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:14 pm

highterrace wrote:If you want a cheap Thompson or Gresley kit try the ones that used to be made by Ian Kirk/Mailcoach, not sure who's making them now, but they weren't bad little kits.

Cooper Craft now make kits see http://www.cooper-craft.co.uk/

LNERandBR · Post by **LNERandBR** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:25 am

I'm in the process of building some Ian Kirk coaches at the moment.