The Great Eurotunnel Model Hunt [by LucaZone]

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Wed Aug 25, 2004 10:49 am

Break through!!!!

CJM Studio Kent. Finally made contact and purchase!!!!

Still available from CJM (though admittedly in minimal numbers) are the following:

Powered 9000 Series Bo-Bo-Bo Locomotive Â£50
Unpowered 9000 Series Bo-Bo-Bo Locomotive Â£35
HGV Club Car Â£10(kit form)
HGV Unloading Wagon Â£10(kit form)
Single Deck Unloading Wagon Â£10(kit form)
Single Deck Carrier Wagon Â£10(kit form)
Double Deck Unloading Wagon Â£10(kit form)
Double Deck Carrier Wagon Â£10(kit form)
Any kit in RTR form Â£50 each

These are very rare pieces, as not only did they go out of production in 1997, but they are currently the only stock in existance replicating the Eurotunnel Stock. While the Eurostar is produced by various manufacturers. My research has only ever found 2 Eurotunnel models for sale outside of CJM Studios, in over a year of looking.

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:08 am

The final chapter

Yes arrival at last. Here is my collection. 11 years in the making and although i wish I could have more (dont we all), here are the kits and loco's to join my now huge Eurotunnel / Eurostar collection. 22nd birthdays are always good for something

its just my finaces right now wont allow for more at this time

Lets hope Xmas comes quick and I can get a few more

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:14 am

The only other activity I still keep alite is the potential to find a layout actually running these

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:03 am

WOuld you take some pictures when its all up and running?

Stooopidperson · Post by **Stooopidperson** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:07 am

The bodies in the Shuttle Kits seem too small!

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:05 am

ive scanned and edited all the images to be 450 pixels wide so it may have made the wagons smaller compared to the loco's.

Currently as this is all i have, they're value is far more left as kit form that if I were to build them up. So they will be staying unopened for the forseeable future

If I can get some more money together and convince my gf that they are a worthy investment I may get a few more and be able to make so proper consists.

PaulCh · Post by **PaulCh** » Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:25 am

Hi

Thought you might find this interesting it is from the demodellers yahoo group. This was written by Bruce Smetham.

Whilst this may have happened at a much much later date, the original
rolling stock for the Eurotunnel terminal model and the Waterloo
International Model (which is in my garage awaiting a buyer!) was made by
Techpro Models of Ashford (who made the bulk of the layouts). Eurostars had
not been thought of at that time, and the international TMST trains were
first made using Kato and Bachmann/Lima N gauge TGV's. International hauled
stock was provided by repainted german fleischmann carriages and class 103's
with moulded bodies based on the class 89 (ish!).

On Waterloo International, Class 455's were/are powered by Kato TGV Chassis,
and I converted all three Kato TGV's to Eurostars many years before Kato
decided to bring out their version which was a natural progression for them
having done all the previous breeds of TGV.

On the Eurotunnel layout, shuttle vehicles were moulded bodies on Kato
Chassis as these were the only ones which lasted more than a day!

Later CJM produced proper Eurotunnel shuttle locos and stock as built and
kit items which were used by and sold by ET, and by CJM. I saw plenty on
sale at the N Gauge show after all these years, so cannot have been great
sellers!!

BTW the N gauge show was on 11/12 September this year

Cheers

Paul

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Thu Sep 23, 2004 5:28 pm

I contacted Bruce directly regarding the contents of the above posting, and this is his response.

Bruce Smethan wrote:I was involved in PR for BR Channel Tunnel/Rail Link Project from 1989 to
1998, and was responsible for looking after and running the WIT model for
BR. I built the WIT roof, and the Eurostars and had good contact with Gary
****** and Fred **** at the Eurotunnel layout when it was open.

I am still in touch with some of the modelmakers who built both layouts
although the company is no longer in business.

The Eurotunnel Layout is now at the Peene Railway Museum, whilst the WIT
model is in trunks in my garage awaiting possible sale as it is too big for
me to exhibit on my own - each board is 7 x 4'.

Extremely exciting news to hear that the Eurotunnel model is actually STILL in existence!. A quick internet search brought up the museums website, and sure enough one of its main features is the Eurotunnel layout!. This is what the site has to say:

Elham Valley Railway Museum wrote:The model is based on a ground scale of 1:200 and represents an area of approximately 3km x 1km. and the trains are constructed to a scale of 1:160, which is 'N' gauge, (in model railway terms).

In the vertical scale, the structure and hills are also built to 1:160, as are the road vehicles, street furniture and trees. Design of the track layout has been simplified to achieve reliability of operation and has a turning loop at each end of the model, these loops are also used to store the international freight and passenger trains. The model has been constructed on a modular basis, which comprises 20 interlocking tables. To help keep the overall weight down the basic contouring has been constructed using expanded styrene covered with glass fibre matting. We have chosen not to use computer control, preferring instead to use manual controllers with the automatic running sequence being operated by relays and reed switches. The reed switches are triggered by magnets, which are fixed to each train, these in turn also operate the points, setting the route for the next departure.

Museum location in relation to the Eurotunnel Terminal

The bad news is, the Museum is only open between April and August due to it being Volunteer / Charity operated. So a few phone calls and letters are in order as there is no way I can wait till next year to see this master piece!

Once again a MASSIVE thanks must go to Paul for spotting these little nuggets of info in his daily minglings. After news on another Railway Club site that the model or at least stock had been liquidated after the Exhibition Centre closed, I saw little hope of finding any of the layout left. How wrong I was!

40058 · Post by **40058** » Mon Sep 27, 2004 5:50 pm

LucaZone wrote:The only other activity I still keep alite is the potential to find a layout actually running these

I know exactly what you mean

40058

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:31 pm

Well its been a while. Ive been tracking a vast number of Loco's for sale on eBay. SO they are still popular it would seem. Some a heading for the Â£100 mark, despite still being available for Â£50 from CJM.

However, just recently someone has put up a 3 wagon HGV combo, while has quickly shot up in price. These wagons really are rare as you can no longer buy them from CJM. Heres one of the pics from the eBay sale.

petermakosch · Post by **petermakosch** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 9:15 pm

Arnt those the ones that were involved in the crash?
[After just seeing the thing on C5 about it]

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:39 pm

The only incident involving Eurotunnel trains is a fire at the calais end of the Channel Tunnel a few years ago, to my knowledge.

Yes this was the wagon type involved.

phat2003uk · Post by **phat2003uk** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:34 am

Are these the sort of things you are looking for ?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 63861&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 43084&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 37950&rd=1

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 11:26 am

Yep cheers

Anything to pricey i dont tend to buy off eBay as I can get them from the manufacture for around Â£10 each

LucaZone · Post by **LucaZone** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:41 pm

Does anyone know any places I would be able to get my hands on a Kato Eurostar 8-car set?

Im now in a position to buy one, but apart from eBay and Model Shows I cant find anywhere else that is selling them. It would need to either be a Kato Dealer or large Train Store.

Kato themselves dont sell it anymore apparently.