Another Challenge?

[Darpor]

Or maybe we all do a bit af a route each package it up an send it to the next person and so on so on that way we all would be making some part of a route

That is the "community" route thing that keeps cropping up, I have reservations about whether it would work in that format. Doing them seperately was proven to work originally and several very good routes were created.

[partyspiritz]

I do hope there will be a new Challenge Competition. As this time I might have a go


Regards



John

[Acorncomputer]

Hi

I am thinking seriously about this and extending the criteria to default assets and freeware assets that can be distributed with the route.

I do not, of course, hold any monopoly on running competitions or Challenges like this so if anyone else wants to have a go at organising something like this then please do step up to the mark

(Ponder, I will pm Derek and Matt today and see what they think)

[pjt1974]

Route challenges are good for route builders. I'd be up for it.
It'd be a good break from the norm of doing my own route, get the batteries recharged, so to speak

[shebarose]

Would love to have another, got a perfect idea for one

Although it would need alot of assets being made Which comes to the question, If the competition went ahead are we allowed to build assets for the route before the start date

[Trainguy76]

Although it would need alot of assets being made Which comes to the question, If the competition went ahead are we allowed to build assets for the route before the start date

That would put the people who can make assets have a "head start" over those who couldn't.

[shebarose]

Although it would need alot of assets being made Which comes to the question, If the competition went ahead are we allowed to build assets for the route before the start date

That would put the people who can make assets have a "head start" over those who couldn't.

Not really, because I want to do a LU route but cant because there wouldn't be any assets. Unless you build them and upload before/whilst the challenge is taking place

[Acorncomputer]

Hi

The main purpose of a Challenge would be to create as many good practical routes as possible in a short space of time. I am sure that the rules could be drawn up in such a way that there is flexibility regarding assets to use but the main criteria must always be that the route should be packaged up in such a way that any end user can install and run the route without having to get any assets from anywhere else.

[pjt1974]

main criteria must always be that the route should be packaged up in such a way that any end user can install and run the route without having to get any assets from anywhere else.

Good point that, why have a limit on whether you can use your third party assets or just default ones, easiest thing is just to make sure you have permission to use what you use and to package them up.
Then the only thing to decide is the theme of the build.
I would put forward a challenge of a commuter network in a fictional city. Underground or overground or both. Must have atleast one main station and a depot.
just an idea

[Acorncomputer]

Wheels are beginning to turn ... watch this space

[RobertM]

I wouldn't mind having a crack at the challenge, but personally I'd like the use of freeware downloads to be allowed. You can get a good default route yes, but you get a great route with all the new wonderful freeware scenery items about just screaming 'use me!!!'.

One downside would be the risk of huge download lists which would put some off downloading when the route is done, so you could limit the number of downloads, say 20-30 or what ever you feel best appropriate per route.

Rob

[Acorncomputer]

One downside would be the risk of huge download lists which would put some off downloading when the route is done, so you could limit the number of downloads, say 20-30 or what ever you feel best appropriate per route.

The idea being considered is that every route would have to work straight 'out of the box'. This means that if third party or own assets were used, these would have to be packaged up with the route so that the user would simply download the .rwp file, install with the RW installer and then immediately start playing. No additional assets to obtain.

This way anyone with RailWorks installed, anywhere in the World, would be able to use the route exactly as built by the creator without any hassle. Getting that to work properly would be part of the Challenge.

[RobertM]

That is true and a good point, the point I was trying to make was that we have had a challange where this was the case, and got some good routes out of it, I think personally a new challenge for use of free ware materials could be made, for example we can now have narrow guage & tramway routes, just think of the sheer variety of would could be produced.

But ultimately its upto you, I'm just giving you my personal opinion

Rob

[Acorncomputer]

Hi Rob

The route creator could use any assets that were available to everyone as long as there was permission for those assets to be distributed with a route. This could include narrow gauge, trams, etc, if the necessary permissions have been given either in the readme text which came with the asset, or as declared on this or any other forum, so long as the creator has made it known publicly that the asset can be distributed, then that is OK.

The inclusion of own built assets for a Challenge route is a bit of a sticking point but a solution will be worked out.

[pjt1974]

I take it the program of events would be
1. announce that a challenge is going ahead
2. finalise the dates (with a little time in advance) and rules (including a final decision on assets) and
3. on the start date announce what criteria the route should include?

Just thought I'd ask to clarify.