Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

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Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:30 pm

I have the Swanage Add on Pack but the Bulleid sounds don't seem good especially the whistle. I have the Bulleid Light Pacific Sound Pack and also the Whistle Pack which has 2 Bullied whistles. Can those be used to replace the sounds from the Swanage pack.
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby rlmathers on Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:54 pm

Hi DanHill

Open the .eng file for the loco you require the sounds to be changed.

Substitute the engine and cab sound statements with :

Sound ( "..\\..\\common.sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-engpas01.sms" )

Sound ( "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-cab01.sms" )

If you want to change the whistle, open the sms files, locate:

Stream(
Skip( **** Whistle sounds. **** )
Priority( 6 )
Triggers( 2
Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )

Replace the .wav file with one of your choice, save the files.

Kindest regards
Ray
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:04 am

rlmathers wrote:Hi DanHill

Open the .eng file for the loco you require the sounds to be changed.

Substitute the engine and cab sound statements with :

Sound ( "..\\..\\common.sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-engpas01.sms" )

Sound ( "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-cab01.sms" )

If you want to change the whistle, open the sms files, locate:

Stream(
Skip( **** Whistle sounds. **** )
Priority( 6 )
Triggers( 2
Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )

Replace the .wav file with one of your choice, save the files.

Kindest regards
Ray
Ok will try that. Thank you very much.
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:36 pm

What do I use to open .sms files and .eng files.
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby rlmathers on Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:32 pm

DanHill wrote:What do I use to open .sms files and .eng files.


ConText is a superb unicode text editor, have a read here:

http://msts.steam4me.net/tutorials/context.html

On the same page in the Contents: Where To Get ConTEXT

When you have installed ConText, you will need the MS Train Simulator highlighter:

http://cdn.contextstatic.org/downloads/highlighters/MS_Trainsim.chl
The downloaded highlighter is placed in ConText - Highlighter folder, this willl then be available in the dropdown: Select active highlighter: MS Trainsim files

You then need to setup file associations in Windows for all the MS Train Sim files .eng, .wag, .sms, etc. Open with: ConText

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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:57 pm

rlmathers wrote:Hi DanHill

Open the .eng file for the loco you require the sounds to be changed.

Substitute the engine and cab sound statements with :

Sound ( "..\\..\\common.sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-engpas01.sms" )

Sound ( "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-cab01.sms" )

If you want to change the whistle, open the sms files, locate:

Stream(
Skip( **** Whistle sounds. **** )
Priority( 6 )
Triggers( 2
Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )

Replace the .wav file with one of your choice, save the files.

Kindest regards
Ray
I changed the sounds from the orginal to the ones in the shared folder and now I have no whistle sound at all from either inside the cab or outside it.
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby rlmathers on Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:12 pm

Hi DanHill

Could you please post a copy and paste of the whistle stream from the .sms files with which you are having problems.
This would help in identifying the location of the problem.

Kindest regards
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:27 pm

rlmathers wrote:Hi DanHill

Could you please post a copy and paste of the whistle stream from the .sms files with which you are having problems.
This would help in identifying the location of the problem.

Kindest regards
Ray
There are 2 sound files x_cor_whistle and Bulleid_whistle. The whistle I'm trying to use instead is x_whistle_wc_02.

cab fileSkip( **** Whistle sounds **** )
Priority( 6 )
Triggers( 2
Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "/UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )
Discrete_Trigger ( 9 ReleaseLoopReleaseWithJump () )

eng file Stream(
Skip( **** Whistle sounds **** )
Priority( 6 )
Triggers( 2
Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "x_/UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )
Discrete_Trigger ( 9 ReleaseLoopReleaseWithJump () )
)
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby rlmathers on Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:17 pm

Hi Dan

You need a correction in the file location:

"../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav"

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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:56 pm

rlmathers wrote:Hi Dan

You need a correction in the file location:

"../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav"

Kindest regards
Ray
Do I have to put this "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\ and then "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav". or just "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" at the front of both eng and cab files.
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby slipperman12 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:04 pm

Hi Ray,
If Dan has already carried out the amendments you advised :
Open the .eng file for the loco you require the sounds to be changed.

Substitute the engine and cab sound statements with :

Sound ( "..\\..\\common.sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-engpas01.sms" )

Sound ( "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\Bullied_LightPacific\\blp-cab01.sms" )

there is no need to change the whistle sound, it is already set to use the x_whistle_wc02 that Dan wanted!

It should be noted that the tender also has an sms file - 3dts_uk_wag.sms - located in the Train Simulator/SOUNDS folder.

Cheers,
Ged
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby rlmathers on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:14 pm

Hi Ged

I think in this instance Dan may be replacing the whistle for the 3DTS Swanage Bulleids.

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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby rlmathers on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:16 pm

DanHill wrote:
rlmathers wrote:Hi Dan

You need a correction in the file location:

"../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav"

Kindest regards
Ray
Do I have to put this "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\ and then "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav". or just "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" at the front of both eng and cab files.


Hi Dan

The statement should read:

Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )

Kindest regards
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby slipperman12 on Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:45 pm

Hi Ray,
Sorry to be a bit of a pain over this, but if Dan is using the Swanage sounds for all but the whistle, then they are in the Loco's own SOUND folder. Therefore I think the call to the whistle wav file needs to go back 2 levels to get to the common.sound folder, to then pick up the uk_shared folder :

"..\\..\\common.sound\\UK_Shared\\x_whistle_wc_02.wav"

Apologies if I'm wrong!

Cheers,
Ged

EDIT : I have just applied my suggestion and it does work - to make sure I wasn't hearing the wrong sound, I gave the Bulleid an A4 whistle :o However, there is a problem - when sounding the whistle in the cab, it is too high a frequency (this applies to the WC and A4 sounds). Maybe some sound wizard can give a solution, please.

EDIT 2 : I think I've solved my own problem! The Frequency Curve entries need to be added to the Swanage sms files - there aren't any!
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Re: Can the Swanage Bullieds Sounds be replaced?

Postby DanHill on Sun Feb 27, 2011 7:00 pm

rlmathers wrote:
DanHill wrote:
rlmathers wrote:Hi Dan

You need a correction in the file location:

"../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav"

Kindest regards
Ray
Do I have to put this "..\\..\\Common.Sound\\ and then "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav". or just "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" at the front of both eng and cab files.


Hi Dan

The statement should read:

Discrete_Trigger ( 8 StartLoopRelease ( 1 File( "../UK_Shared/x_whistle_wc_02.wav" -1 ) SelectionMethod ( SequentialSelection ) ) )

Kindest regards
Ray
Thats what I have and still no whistle. The steam that comes out when sounding the whistle goes on longer than the whistle fitted to the Swanage locos but no sound.
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